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 Registered Member #204
Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
Lep pozdrav! Ker imava s kolegom plan, če se bo izšlo obisk Škotske seveda tudi muharjenje na lososa. Me zanima , če ima kdo že kakšne izkušnje z lovom na lososa. Dobrodošla bi bila kakšna informacija kakšno palico uporabiti, muhe, itd.... Pa lep  pozdravLP G [ Edited Saturday 20 February 2010 - 06:41:46 ] |
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Registered Member #162
Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
Hi gogi, I am not sure what your first sentence means, but if I understand correctly you are asking about salmon fishing. I apologize for English; my Slovenian is a bit rusty. I have not had the opportunity to fish for salmon in the British Isles, but I have fished for both salmon and steelhead here in North America. Do you own, and are you able, to cast a two hand fly rod? This is very important on larger rivers and often enforced on Scottish streams. Should you be fishing a beat with a ghillie, my understanding is that the ghillie should be able to give you some lesson on proper casting. Anyway...flies, lines, everything really varies on time of year, but I would be happy to show you some of my own flies and offer rod advice if you like. Če ne razumete, rečem v najboljši (or worst  ) slovensko.Cheers, Mike |
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Registered Member #204
Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
Hi Mike! My english is not very good  I will bi very glad of your help, because i am complete beginne to catch salmon. My bigest problem will be spey casting, i saw on youtube, looks easy but in reality is much difficult. I think to use this two hand fly rod: povezava [link] I will be very happy to show me some of your own flies and offer rod adviced. Gogi |
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Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
Lahko poveste mesec ti ribe? (In which month will you be fishing?) | ||
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Registered Member #204
Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
Hi! I will be go fishing in September. |
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| MikeL |
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Registered Member #162
Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
Ne vem Shakespeare Rods, ampak dolžina in teža sta dobra. 13' za 8 ali 14' za 9 so dobri splošni lososa palice(rods???). Samo slabo je 'Outfit' priti s 'floating line' samo. Boste morda morali 'sinking line' v september (ampak ko voda visoka ali hladno vodo, 'floating' dobro za večino vode). Jaz foto moj muhe jutri. --------- I do not know anything of Shakespeare Rods, but the length and line weight is good. A 13' for 8 weight or 14' for 9 weight is a good general purpose salmon rod. The only negative I see with that outfit is that it only comes with a floating line. Depending upon conditions, you may need a sinking line in September (only when water is high due to rains or the water is cold, a floating line will be ok for most conditions). I'll take some photos of flies for you tomorrow. [ Edited Tuesday 09 March 2010 - 23:04:39 ] |
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| MikeL |
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Registered Member #162
Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
Če sem samo 3 muhe, imam te velikosti 4, 8, in 12. To bi bilo dobro za večino vodne vrste. (If I could have three flies, I would have these three in size 4, 8, and 12. They should cover most fishing conditions.) Black Stoat za oblačnih dni  Silver Stoat za sončnih dni  Cascade or Ally's Shrimp   There are many other flies I like, but a few these three in each of those sizes would have you pretty well covered for most water. I hope I have been helpful, and I hope you enjoy your trip. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions. Cheers, Mike |
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Registered Member #204
Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
Hi Mikel! Thanks for your help. I think i will find any other question, because i dont know a lot of fishing salmon. |
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Registered Member #204
Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
HI Mikel! How quickly time passes, just 14 days and we are gonig to scotland.  I like to know which tippet (predvrvica) use, for how many kilograms and what should be the length of tippet. Gogi |
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Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
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Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
Hi Gogi! I always use Maxima tippet because it is hard and abrasion resistant. 12lb is my standard, but I carry 8lb, 15lb, and 20lb with me to fish depending on where/when/etc. Length also depends, but, in general, 6-10ft of tippet is standard. Where are you going to be fishing? I had my first (and probably only) salmon trip of the year to Nova Scotia at the end of June. I only landed one small grilse of about 2-3kg, but I did fight a much larger salmon for near 20 minutes before the hook pulled. Thats salmon fishing though--you never know how the fishing will be. I am hoping to get back this fall, but it doesnt look likely this year.      Good luck and I hope you land one! [ Edited Wednesday 18 August 2010 - 05:38:20 ] |
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Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
I'm going to Scotland on 6 to 18 september. We have 4 days for fishing. Nice pictures, especially the first. I hope i lend one, we will see. Thanks for help Gogi |
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Joined: Wednesday 01 March 2006 - 14:08:50Posts: 2192 |
Hey,,, @MikeL And besides a really nice pics, I also admire a really nice salmon patterns a few posts higher Mike thanks a lot for your contribution and help, Lucky |
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Joined: Thursday 29 September 2005 - 04:20:35Posts: 184 |
Gogi Nekaj namigov o lovu na lososa, sicer na Irskem boš dobil v temle članku od mojega prijatelja Andreja Urbasa, no notri so dejstva, ki bi ti jih rad predočil : povezava [link] Ko bom šel naslednjič lovit lososa, bom vsekakor vzel s seboj tudi vijačnico / špinarco s potrebno opremo ( večino lososov se namreč ulovi ravno s tem priborom in ne z muharicami, kot to misli večina ribičev, in če v visoki motni vodi domačini lovijo ravno na ta pribor, ne moreš ti biti bolj pameten od njih ) Vsekakor si najemite za prvi ribolov " ghilliija " alias vodiča, ki vam bo v pomoč pri odkrivanju domačih posebnosti, kot so kje loviti na kaj loviti, kako voditi vabo etc.... Bodite prepričani da bo naredil vse potrebno da vsaj eden od vas ujame lososa saj si s tem dviguje "rejting" kot vodič ! Bolj iskan bolj plačan !! Težko vam bo v kratekem času na omejenem delu vode odkriti kje so najboljši placi, ležišča lososov in na kaj jih lovit, ter kako voditi vabo, ghillie pa to že vse obvlada.... In seveda pri tem "mučo denarju" ki ga boste vložili v projekt " Ribolov na Škotskem " potem šparati pri vodiču, se vam vsekakor nebo obrestovalo. Sam sem lososa dobil na samo eno muho in sicer na čisto navadnega Woolly Buggerja, črne barve navezanega na losoovem dvokrakem trneku / PARTRIDGE DOUBLE SALMON HOOKS /št 6, kljub temu da sem zvezal pred našim odhodom na desetine različnih lososovih muh za ta namen  Drugega pa sem dobil na obarvano kozico (vijola barve ) in na sposojen pribor za plovčkarjenje ! Kljub temu da sem kasneje veliko premetaval tole mojo umetnino  na njo nisem ; žal, ujel nič................ Naslednjič nebom nosil s seboj niti težkih dvoročnih muharic, ker sem s svojo devetko prav tako daleč metal, pa še trudil se nisem kaj dosti.. Težko je obvladati v tako kratkem času posebnosti meta z dvoročnimi muharicami, če doma že malo ne potreniraš ... S seboj bom nesel obvezno tudi palico za bredenje po vodi:  . namreč večina Angleških in Irskih vod je temnih, tako da je bredenje po njih zelo nevarno brez tega pripomočka...in seveda veliko zaščite proti dežju in vetru, tam ima namreč dež mlade... Ja pisal bi ti lahko cel dan (namreč napisal sem ti celo stran potem sem pa po pomoti vse skupaj zaprl , sr....) zato sem sedaj bolj racionalen in te sprašujem, če te še kaj konkretno zanima, Pa za konec še prošnja z moje strani, ker se v Škotsko višavje v kratkem (verjetno naslednjo sezono ) podajam tudi sam, moj zet je namreč od tam doma , mi bo vsaka vaša izkušnja še kako prav prišla, zato pa, ko pridete nazaj, čim daljše in konkretnejše poročilo, seveda s foto materijalom. Slike povedo več kot tisoč besed......  , pa dober prijem vam želim..............Lep pozdrav MVM [ Edited Wednesday 18 August 2010 - 21:01:27 ] "Ubi concordia, ibi victoria !" |
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MVM super, hvala za tvoj prispevek! Glede ponovnega pisanja pa vsem, ki imate namen napisati malo daljši sestavek predlagam, da ga pišete v Wordu in potem skopirate v svojo objavo na forumu... pri pisanju "off line" se namreč redkeje zgodi, da se kje kaj zatakne, ali da kaj pomotoma klikneš  Po tem, ko sem sam to parkrat doživel in potem bentil kot ... (ja, jezen sem bil ), zdaj daljše sestavke pišem v wordu, redno uporabim kombinacijo CTRL + S (save) in potem, ko zaključim vse skupaj preselim na forum...V upanju, da se vam bo to čim manjkrat dogodilo, vsem lep muharski pozdrav Lucky |
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Registered Member #162
Joined: Saturday 12 May 2007 - 19:31:00Posts: 129 |
gogi2cv wrote ... I'm going to Scotland on 6 to 18 september. We have 4 days for fishing. Nice pictures, especially the first. I hope i lend one, we will see. Thanks for help Gogi Hi gogi, Which river will you fish? (Ki rek ste ribe?) [ Edited Sunday 22 August 2010 - 15:10:00 ] |
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Registered Member #204
Joined: Sunday 02 December 2007 - 09:29:10Posts: 180 |
Hi MIkel! We will fish on Annan river, near Lockerby. MVM Hvala za prispevk. Vsekakor se boma s kolegom potrudila napisati eno konkretno poročilo. Glede palice, sva s kolegom en čas odločala eno ročno ali dvo. Majo pa tukaj kjer sva rezervirala karte, tudi svoja pravila in nekako bolj priporočajo dvoročne palice. Za tehniko metanja mama pa kak teden na voljo za vajo. Sicer boma pa midva lovila kot sem že napisal v južnem delu Škotske. LP G |
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